"talking back"

Discussion in 'Bernese Mountain Dog Training Forum' started by Nubia's mom, May 6, 2009.

  1. Nubia's mom

    Nubia's mom New Member


    I was wondering if anybody else is facing a similar situation. Our girl is 3months old and has a real attitude!!! She is extremely friendly and gets excited with anybody who comes to the house but will not "tolerate" discipline! When I say "no" or "what are doing"(when she uses me for a chew toy, or tries to eat the chairs), in a stern voice and point my finger at her....she goes nuts!!!! She growls and barks up a storm. (all while wagging her tail -if that means anything). Its not a threating kind of bark or growl its more of a "back talking" thing. As if she has to get the last word in... When I continue to scold her and raise my voice she will retreat to her bed while growling and barking.

    She is pretty good with "sit", "stay", "lie down". Its getting her to stop doing something that really gets her going.

    Any suggestions?:confused:
  2. bernermom

    bernermom Administrator Staff Member

    Hi and Welcome to Bernertalk! First of all congrats on you new Baby!

    I had to laugh when I read your post. Berners are really smart, and learn very fast, but they are Stubborn:) ! You have to have lots and lots or patience. Riley does the same thing when you point at him. He started it as a puppy and at almost 4 years, he still thinks the "pointing finger" is a big game. He could be asleep across the room and without saying a word, my husband or I can point a finger at him, and somehow he knows and will start "talking back":D. It is so funny! It is probably more funny to us, since we aren't trying to "train" right now like you are. I wonder how many other Berners play that game?

    Like I said, just have patience and be repetitious with everything that you are trying to teach her. Riley used me for a chew toy also for a long time. My arms and hands looked awful! A lot of that was my fault for not making him stop ( he was just so cute ) I ended up using something called apple bitters, apparently tastes really bad, and I would spray it on my arms before I played with him. He eventually stopped. Just hang in there, it will get better, and it will be worth it! Berners are amazing dogs!

    We look forward to hearing from you and would love to see some pictures..
  3. Nubia's mom

    Nubia's mom New Member


    Thanks so much for the input. Nubia is my first Bernese and I must admit she is all together very different from the dogs I had in the past (Belgian shepard, German Shepard). I totally agree about their stubborn streak...She has a mind of her own and is not afraid to show it!!! :p And even though she drives me nuts some times I think she is the best doggie in the whole world. :D

    You are absolutely correct that they are the most amazing dogs, she has become the center of my family's world.

    I have posted some photos in my profile album so all can see our little fur ball.
  4. Charlie

    Charlie New Member

  5. Brian&Rachel

    Brian&Rachel New Member

    Kody does the same thing, hes just turned 7 months. He likes to chew on us... not so much anything else( I can ount the number of things he's destroyed in the house on one hand). When we tell him no he grunts grumbles growls and barks. All the while wagging his tail. Its the funniest thing, I think its pay back for all the times I argued with my mom as a kid. Weve been able to teach him some tricks as long as we have a treat but cant get him to listen to no. And its so funny when he does it that we cant help but laugh at him, which Im sure reinforces the behavior.
  6. kmcshane0211

    kmcshane0211 New Member

    Oh gosh...I am giggling so hard at this. My girl, Faith, does the exact same thing when she is either in a mood or really excited. I consulted the breeder and she advised me that she thinks I am "playing" with her during this time, since she is still wagging her tail and not truly being aggressive. She can have such an attitude! :)

  7. Susan

    Susan New Member

    Oliver is six months and tries the same thing! I have decided it take a lot of "perseverance" to pull a cart in the Swiss Mts so this stubborn streak must be the other side of the coin. He thinks he is being played with when I try to discipline him with a stern voice and finger pointing. He usually gives up pretty easily now unless it is something he really wants to do (get on the couch and steal the TV remote for example...he didn't like the Oscars much the other night apparently.)
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  8. Sienna

    Sienna New Member

    This post is hilarious because I'm also experiencing "Berner back-talk"....
  9. Nan Weidenfeller

    Nan Weidenfeller New Member

    Our boy, Snickelfritz -Fritz to us-obviously has a Berner attitude based on what I've just read. We were worried he was too dominate for us. I have found when he talked back if I do the opposite of what I am feeling,he subsides and becomes docile. Instead of continuing to to scold, if I change my voice and gently call him to me and tell him what I want, I get good results. He does dominate our very docile golden but most dogs do. Fritz is 8months old and is giving us run for our money.
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  10. Cheryl

    Cheryl New Member

    Our 5 month old Marley does the same. When I consulted the breeder, she said his mother is also very vocal. I am realizing that frowning, lowering my voice, and sometimes turning my back on him is most effective.

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